You donвЂ™t want to give someone a title equal to your highest title lest you want them to become and independent nation, and you want to spread the wealth around a bit to avoid one family consolidating too much power. Since these people will remain your vassals the land will still count towards your realm, but youвЂ™ll need to be mindful of who youвЂ™re giving all this power to. To mitigate this you will need to assign some of these territories to a different character, giving them the title and ownership of the land. These adverse effects range from lower taxes and levies, to your vassals developing negative opinions of you. Thing is, you can only control so many holdings in general within Crusader Kings III (the buildings on the map under your direct control), and a mere two duchies within a kingdom before penalties kick in. Once you own a title that territory is added to your realm and domain. if you own the title for a duchy, but not a title for all its counties, you can legally go to war for those missing titles. I bring this up, because you can seize lower tier titles if you own the title for the larger tier of territory they belong within: I.E. I go into much greater detail about claims in the guide here, but the idea is equally simple вЂ“ claims are titles you have a right to, well, claim. That is, it seems like you lose the extra vassals when they die, not when you die вЂ“ so whichever vassals die first are the ones you lose probably.An important facet of titles you need to understand are claims. However, if you grant any counties to a mayor or a bishop, you wind up with count-level vassals who you are depending upon for taxes, so the penalty may be more severe.Д®DIT by asker: I'm not sure if being over the vassal limit caused it, but when one of my vassals died, his heir was no longer my vassal. That means mayors, bishops and barons from your personally held demesne counties don't count towards the limit itself. It's also worth reiterating that only Count-level and above vassals count towards the vassal limit. I've seen this happen to AI's when they win a holy war (rather, all of Christendom wins a holy war for them) and wind up with a spare kingdom, which is why the game gives you a little bit of leeway before applying opinion and tax penalties. If you go over your vassal limit by 20, you're down to zero taxes and levies from vassals, left to finance and defend your entire realm with only your direct demesne. If it does apply to sub-county vassals this is much more of a problem, as city taxes typically provide the bulk of an income. If you don't have a feudal tax law enacted, this might not matter as 0 less 5% is still 0. I also didn't look at the taxes, but I assume it's also 5% per vassal.

All of my count tier and higher vassals have this penalty applied, but I didn't think to look for a sub-county level vassal. On the military tab, this is the green and red bar on the right hand side.ДЄs you can see, my vassal duke has his troop contribution penalized by 5% for being over my vassal limit by 1. You can see the impact of the penalty in the summary screen for levies or taxes by hovering over the per-vassal contribution. You risk losing vassals if your character dies.

You have M/N vassals, give you less taxes and levies from your vassals. The over vassal limit warning вЂ“ the notification that pops up in the center, if you haven't disabled it вЂ“ says the following: Having too many direct vassals will negatively affect the amount of taxes and levies you get from vassas, and you might lose the grip of your vassals upon death. Your vassal limit indicates how many direct vassals you can have at count tier or higher, excluding nomad clans. The vassal limit tooltip from the top-right of the screen says the following: Note: this answer is current for game version 2.4.2.

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